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What Might Civil War Be Like?

Post by Slappy » Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:09 am

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What Might Civil War Be Like?

By E.M. Cadwaladr

The thought of Civil War has been in the minds of many people lately, on both sides of the political and cultural divide. This is not a thing to be wished for, though no one should kid themselves into believing it’s impossible either. Let us take a sober look at what such a conflict might entail.

To begin with, it would not look like the first American Civil War, which was essentially a war between two regions of the country with different economic interests. The divide created two separate countries, both initially contiguous, intact, and relatively homogeneous. The lines of demarcation now are only somewhat regional, and tend to correspond to differences between urban and rural populations, as well as differences of race and class. A second American Civil War would be much more similar to the Spanish Civil War, with the leftists dominating the cities and conservatives controlling the countryside. Conflicts of this nature, with enemies mixed geographically, are a formula for spontaneous mass bloodletting. India-Pakistan during the 1947 partition comes to mind as another modern example. Given an absence of legitimate government and the friction of proximity, ordinary people can be moved to settle grievances by killing one another without the need for governments to egg them on.


Some dimensions of a future civil war would be, I think, largely unprecedented. When lesser countries have imploded in violence in recent times, they have done so with most of the world around them still intact. There were other nations to offer aid, assistance and intervention, welcome or unwelcome. There were places for refugees to go. The collapse of the world’s remaining superpower would take much of the world down with it. A global economic crisis would be inevitable. The withdrawal of American forces from bases across the world to fight at home would also create a power vacuum that others, even under economic strain, would be tempted to exploit. Whichever side gained control of our nuclear arsenal, our status as a nuclear power would probably persuade other nations not to interfere in our conflict militarily, but the collapse of trade alone would produce crippling effects that would be hard to overestimate. Many components for products our manufacturing sector makes are globally sourced. Add to this the breakdown of our transportation system, dependent on oil and transecting one new front line after another. The internet would fail. It is a frail enough now. Financial systems would fail. What happens if the banks find half their assets suddenly in hostile territory? All Federal government functions, including Social Security, would fail, many of them losing their very legitimacy to one side or the other. Food production, heavily dependent on diesel fuel, chemical fertilizers and pesticides, not to mention a steady supply of genetically engineered seeds, would slump alarmingly. In short, most things we depend on are now held together by a network of delicate and complex connections. Without those connections, would you have a job? If so, in what medium of exchange could your employers manage to pay you? What would there be for you to buy? Does your town, your county, or even your state have the ability to marshal its resources into a viable economy? How many people in those entities could deal with anything worse than a weather disaster, in which they count on the fact that help is coming soon?

From an economic perspective, I think it is fair to say that the left would have a bigger problem than the right. Cities cannot feed themselves under any conditions, and what food could be grown on America’s resource-starved farms would be gobbled up by people nearer and dearer to the farmers. Leftists would have to both secure vast territories around their urban strongholds and relearn from scratch the generations-lost art of food production. Liberal enclaves stranded in the hinterland would simply be untenable. We, on the other hand, would be critically short of new Hollywood movies. Without a steady supply of the works of Meryl Streep and Matt Damon, millions of conservatives would instantly drop dead from boredom – that is, according to Meryl Streep.

Up through the middle of the 20th century, cities were major hubs of industry, but liberal preoccupations with environmentalism have driven much of our surviving industry into rural areas. The domination of the South by the sheer scale of Northern industry that happened in the 1860s would not repeat itself in a future war. Both sides would probably have the means to manufacture basic military essentials, but producing sophisticated items like fighter planes would be simply too complex for the remaining economic base. It would be a war of soldiers, not of million-dollar robots. Were the war to stretch into years, the left would likely destroy their own economy with unfettered socialistic policies. This actually happened to the Spanish Republic in the 1930s. I can image their modern counterparts struggling to make eco-friendly weapons and organize culturally-sensitive, politically-correct collective farms.

Militarily, the left has other problems. They have saddled themselves with a longstanding disdain for military history and thought. A mob of whiney, untrained Antifa or BLM protestors doth not an army make. In recent decades, the left has sought not so much to co-opt the military as to rot it from within. When your idea of a military hero is Bowe Bergdahl or Bradley “call-me-Chelsea” Manning, it is evident that you’ve planned to fight your battles exclusively in the movies. The officer corps, or the part of it that’s worth the name, is ours. Although the left probably has a certain pool of minority ex-soldiers to draw on, I doubt they have a single general officer that still has his original issue genitalia. I’ll take a Texan and a Tar Heel against a metrosexual and a social justice warrior any day -- while admitting that the latter might conduct a far more colorful parade. Much would depend on how the military happened to fragment, but even if one side or the other got the lion’s share of it there simply aren’t enough soldiers in the armed forces to garrison the entire country. More troops would have to be raised, equipped, and trained.

The right would probably win a real war, for all the reasons I have sketched above. I suspect it wouldn’t take the three years to decide the issue that it took in Spain, but predicting a short war has usually proven to be a fool’s occupation. Long or short, tens of millions of people would likely starve to death before war and reconstruction were over -- far more than would die in actual fighting. Having seen a person starve to death, it is not a fate I’d wish on friends and family members -- or even on my enemies. It might be, after all the legal shenanigans are done, the necessary cost of keeping western society alive -- but it would no heroic action movie. Utopian ideologies die hard. War is hell.

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Post by John Frum » Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:30 pm

it wont be civil war,it will turn into a race war instantly....lots of nigrdeath, rape- murder, beaner impalements and strangely enough HOTDOGS ON A STICK an Jesus Christ in a UBOAT

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Re: What Might Civil War Be Like?

Post by Slappy » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:17 pm

as long as a few million white progs die with em

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Post by Mikgof » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:50 am

Be still my fluttering heart. First, you give us Trump for entertainment and now you're going to give us a civil war. You're far too kind to us. You really shouldn't be running your country just to give us a bloody good laugh but carry on anyway.

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Re: What Might Civil War Be Like?

Post by Slappy » Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:02 am

Mikgof wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:50 am
Be still my fluttering heart. First, you give us Trump for entertainment and now you're going to give us a civil war. You're far too kind to us. You really shouldn't be running your country just to give us a bloody good laugh but carry on anyway.

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their wont be any when we take most of the friggin planet down with us

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Re: What Might Civil War Be Like?

Post by Mikgof » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:55 pm

Slappy wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:02 am
Mikgof wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:50 am
Be still my fluttering heart. First, you give us Trump for entertainment and now you're going to give us a civil war. You're far too kind to us. You really shouldn't be running your country just to give us a bloody good laugh but carry on anyway.

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their wont be any when we take most of the friggin planet down with us

No you won't. It'll just be Americans killing Americans; your national sport. Only this time there will be a lot more and it won't just be schoolchildren being slaughtered.

And yes. I do think that a civil war is likely. America must be the only democracy in the world where friendship and relationships are actually based upon political party affiliation. That can only end badly. Add that to your culture of death and civil war is inevitable. The only question is when. Next week or 20 years time?
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Re: What Might Civil War Be Like?

Post by Richard » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:38 pm

It would collapse the world economy and lead to a second Great Depression.

Better stock up on tinned food and cheap Scotch, mik

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Re: What Might Civil War Be Like?

Post by Mikgof » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:10 pm

Richard wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:38 pm
It would collapse the world economy and lead to a second Great Depression.

Better stock up on tinned food and cheap Scotch, mik
It wouldn't. The world has much more industrial capacity since 1929 and there is a hell of a lot more free trade since then. What would happen is that we'd simply do what we are already doing in the face of Trump's trade war; increase free trade deals and trade more and more between ourselves. All that an American civil war would do is speed up what is already happening. Even in America, the economy wouldn't fall by that much. You might have a recession but people would still need to eat, so you'll still have an economy.

In fact, if you could start killing each other before the year's end, it would mean that Britain would get a much better trade deal with the EU post-Brexit. Your country is so partisan that civil war is inevitable, so you might as well start now rather than wait years or even decades.
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Post by Richard » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:36 pm

Considering that the rest of the world cannot feed itself without US food exports, that’s an amusing take.

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Richard wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:36 pm
Considering that the rest of the world cannot feed itself without US food exports, that’s an amusing take.

Sorry, unsubstantiated claim.


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Post by Mikgof » Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:30 am

Richard wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:36 pm
Considering that the rest of the world cannot feed itself without US food exports, that’s an amusing take.
Just because you'll be killing yourselves, it doesn't mean that you'll stop growing food. Anyway, the West can easily produce more food simply by scrapping the over 1 trillion dollars a year that we give in handouts to farmers. Even if it didn't result in producing a single gram of extra food (highly unlikely) we'd still save taxpayers over a trillion dollars each and every year.
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Post by WilyB » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:53 am

Mikgof wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:55 pm
Only this time there will be a lot more and it won't just be school children being slaughtered.
If people were really concerned by saving school children, I would recommend rising the age of driving from 15/16 to 20. School shooting are a tragedy and kill may be dozen or two kids a year. Teen driving cause 6,000 perfectly avoidable kids' deaths a year because the school districts prefer to build cheap parking lots (which they make money out of by issuing permits!) than more school buses and hiring more bus drivers AND fat assed soccer moms prefer to drive to an ice cream parlor to gulp down Amaretto Truffle (Death by Chocolate Ice Cream & Amaretto Syrup) or Island Oasis (Vanilla Ice Cream, Bananas, and Pineapple Topping) than picking up the kids after school.

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Post by John Frum » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:00 pm

Slappy wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:17 pm
as long as a few million white progs die with em
the females will be used as breeding stock and made to suck it

at least one will say she dont wanna suck it

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Post by John Frum » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:03 pm

Mikgof wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:30 am
Richard wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:36 pm
Considering that the rest of the world cannot feed itself without US food exports, that’s an amusing take.
Just because you'll be killing yourselves, it doesn't mean that you'll stop growing food. Anyway, the West can easily produce more food simply by scrapping the over 1 trillion dollars a year that we give in handouts to farmers. Even if it didn't result in producing a single gram of extra food (highly unlikely) we'd still save taxpayers over a trillion dollars each and every year.
how much do you reckon the jew subsidy is worldwide ?

farmers aint got shit on the jooze


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Post by Slappy » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:13 pm

Mikgof wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:30 am
Richard wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:36 pm
Considering that the rest of the world cannot feed itself without US food exports, that’s an amusing take.
Just because you'll be killing yourselves, it doesn't mean that you'll stop growing food. Anyway, the West can easily produce more food simply by scrapping the over 1 trillion dollars a year that we give in handouts to farmers. Even if it didn't result in producing a single gram of extra food (highly unlikely) we'd still save taxpayers over a trillion dollars each and every year.
I can garuntee you finacial markets, banks and even currencies will tank all around the world .

hell geroge soros took control of the British pound ...quite rather easily to
If the worlds only super power collapses the UK will not fair well ...A collapsed financial system will stop the trucks rolling and the farms harvesting in masse
export dependent china will probably implode


UK and western Europe if the welfare payments stop coming the animals will be out to play

if the US breaks out into civil war the last place youll wanna be is western europe ,china, south east asia or any city in north America


youll need a bible cause i also guarantee ya yaalls gonna be a prayin to our white Christian lord

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Post by Mikgof » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:45 pm

John Frum wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:03 pm
Mikgof wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:30 am
Richard wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:36 pm
Considering that the rest of the world cannot feed itself without US food exports, that’s an amusing take.
Just because you'll be killing yourselves, it doesn't mean that you'll stop growing food. Anyway, the West can easily produce more food simply by scrapping the over 1 trillion dollars a year that we give in handouts to farmers. Even if it didn't result in producing a single gram of extra food (highly unlikely) we'd still save taxpayers over a trillion dollars each and every year.
how much do you reckon the jew subsidy is worldwide ?

farmers aint got shit on the jooze


What Jew subsidy? That old bromide of the Jews running the world. There is no evidence that Jews who comprise just 0.22% of the world population are controlling the other 99.78% and if they were then that would make them supermen. They call it anti-semitism, saying that Jews control us. I don't see it that way. Those who talk of Jewish world control are just the opposite. They are portraying Jews as Gods amongst us. They might hate Jews but they are in effect saying that Jews are far superior to the rest of us. I don't buy it myself. They're just ordinary humans.

On the other hand, there is ample evidence that farmers who produce a product that we have to buy, are protected from competition through tariffs and import quotas, still need that trillion dollars to stay in business.
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Post by Mikgof » Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:59 pm

Slappy wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:13 pm
Mikgof wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:30 am
Richard wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:36 pm
Considering that the rest of the world cannot feed itself without US food exports, that’s an amusing take.
Just because you'll be killing yourselves, it doesn't mean that you'll stop growing food. Anyway, the West can easily produce more food simply by scrapping the over 1 trillion dollars a year that we give in handouts to farmers. Even if it didn't result in producing a single gram of extra food (highly unlikely) we'd still save taxpayers over a trillion dollars each and every year.
I can garuntee you finacial markets, banks and even currencies will tank all around the world .

hell geroge soros took control of the British pound ...quite rather easily to
If the worlds only super power collapses the UK will not fair well ...A collapsed financial system will stop the trucks rolling and the farms harvesting in masse
export dependent china will probably implode


UK and western Europe if the welfare payments stop coming the animals will be out to play

if the US breaks out into civil war the last place youll wanna be is western europe ,china, south east asia or any city in north America


youll need a bible cause i also guarantee ya yaalls gonna be a prayin to our white Christian lord
All that will happen is that you'll be killing yourselves at a faster rate than at present. And if the kill rate is so high that it affects production then your factories and farms will increase automation in your factories and on your farms to make up the shortfall. That is the great advantage of civil war in a highly developed economy. Third world countries with little infrastructure soon lose what little they had and end up in the stone age. That shouldn't happen in America.
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Post by Slappy » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:00 pm

Mikgof wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:59 pm
Slappy wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:13 pm
Mikgof wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:30 am
Richard wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:36 pm
Considering that the rest of the world cannot feed itself without US food exports, that’s an amusing take.
Just because you'll be killing yourselves, it doesn't mean that you'll stop growing food. Anyway, the West can easily produce more food simply by scrapping the over 1 trillion dollars a year that we give in handouts to farmers. Even if it didn't result in producing a single gram of extra food (highly unlikely) we'd still save taxpayers over a trillion dollars each and every year.
I can garuntee you finacial markets, banks and even currencies will tank all around the world .

hell geroge soros took control of the British pound ...quite rather easily to
If the worlds only super power collapses the UK will not fair well ...A collapsed financial system will stop the trucks rolling and the farms harvesting in masse
export dependent china will probably implode


UK and western Europe if the welfare payments stop coming the animals will be out to play

if the US breaks out into civil war the last place youll wanna be is western europe ,china, south east asia or any city in north America


youll need a bible cause i also guarantee ya yaalls gonna be a prayin to our white Christian lord
All that will happen is that you'll be killing yourselves at a faster rate than at present. And if the kill rate is so high that it affects production then your factories and farms will increase automation in your factories and on your farms to make up the shortfall. That is the great advantage of civil war in a highly developed economy. Third world countries with little infrastructure soon lose what little they had and end up in the stone age. That shouldn't happen in America.
Those rose colored glasses are even thicker than your alt energy and migrant ones ..


If the US Dissolved into a civil war the economic shockwaves and repercussions would be YUGE

youre screwed

ALONE the US DEBT the UK is holding would be worthless overnight :lol:


mass shootings ? gun violence ? pffft why no thread about Chicago
HOW many people died from shootings last weekend ...it was some ridiculous number like 74
Ya didnt really hear a peep out of the MSM

if you closely look at US crime statistics its like a crystal ball for the UK the more Africans around the higher the crime rate
yours is only set to rise I ALSO GUARANTEE ITLL be worse than the US in the not to distant future ........if no collapse of course
in america whites commit very little crime
the fbi no longer even has a statistic for whites raping black women ...why because it rarely happens

flip it around black on white and you get a frightning statistic

blacks and latinos murdering each other jacks up our murder rate big time

in a civil war scenario blacks and latinos will probably prey on each other immediately
and run into serious trouble if they venture out of urban and suburban areas where they live

if i were them id steer clear of white suburban and rural Christan areas which will probably organize the fastest ...any local white leftist (ive seen bernie bumper stickers :twisted: ) who even had the balls to start causing trouble would probably get picked off faster than an ox cart chuggin down the street

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The Canadians may have to intervene on the lefts behalf :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Mikgof » Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:25 pm

Slappy wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:00 pm
Mikgof wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:59 pm
Slappy wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:13 pm
Mikgof wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:30 am
Richard wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:36 pm
Considering that the rest of the world cannot feed itself without US food exports, that’s an amusing take.
Just because you'll be killing yourselves, it doesn't mean that you'll stop growing food. Anyway, the West can easily produce more food simply by scrapping the over 1 trillion dollars a year that we give in handouts to farmers. Even if it didn't result in producing a single gram of extra food (highly unlikely) we'd still save taxpayers over a trillion dollars each and every year.
I can garuntee you finacial markets, banks and even currencies will tank all around the world .

hell geroge soros took control of the British pound ...quite rather easily to
If the worlds only super power collapses the UK will not fair well ...A collapsed financial system will stop the trucks rolling and the farms harvesting in masse
export dependent china will probably implode


UK and western Europe if the welfare payments stop coming the animals will be out to play

if the US breaks out into civil war the last place youll wanna be is western europe ,china, south east asia or any city in north America


youll need a bible cause i also guarantee ya yaalls gonna be a prayin to our white Christian lord
All that will happen is that you'll be killing yourselves at a faster rate than at present. And if the kill rate is so high that it affects production then your factories and farms will increase automation in your factories and on your farms to make up the shortfall. That is the great advantage of civil war in a highly developed economy. Third world countries with little infrastructure soon lose what little they had and end up in the stone age. That shouldn't happen in America.
Those rose colored glasses are even thicker than your alt energy and migrant ones ..


If the US Dissolved into a civil war the economic shockwaves and repercussions would be YUGE

youre screwed

ALONE the US DEBT the UK is holding would be worthless overnight :lol:


mass shootings ? gun violence ? pffft why no thread about Chicago
HOW many people died from shootings last weekend ...it was some ridiculous number like 74
Ya didnt really hear a peep out of the MSM

if you closely look at US crime statistics its like a crystal ball for the UK the more Africans around the higher the crime rate
yours is only set to rise I ALSO GUARANTEE ITLL be worse than the US in the not to distant future ........if no collapse of course
in america whites commit very little crime
the fbi no longer even has a statistic for whites raping black women ...why because it rarely happens

flip it around black on white and you get a frightning statistic

blacks and latinos murdering each other jacks up our murder rate big time

in a civil war scenario blacks and latinos will probably prey on each other immediately
and run into serious trouble if they venture out of urban and suburban areas where they live

if i were them id steer clear of white suburban and rural Christan areas which will probably organize the fastest ...any local white leftist (ive seen bernie bumper stickers :twisted: ) who even had the balls to start causing trouble would probably get picked off faster than an ox cart chuggin down the street

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Don't worry about us, we'll muddle on through while munching the popcorn. Now get on with what all Americans are born for; killing each other. It's only a question of when, not if, so you might as well get started now. Why wait years when you can be enjoying yourselves today? Get to it.
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Re: What Might Civil War Be Like?

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mik will end up choking out a grandma for a tin of hash

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Re: What Might Civil War Be Like?

Post by Mikgof » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:51 pm

Richard wrote:
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:45 pm
mik will end up choking out a grandma for a tin of hash
Like I said we'll muddle on through and even if it does go all pear-shaped, and the world descends into a depression we'll still have TV's to watch the fun on.
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