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Two primaries on Tuesday illustrate why the 'Blue Wave' is far from certain

Post by Slappy » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:13 pm

June 11, 2018
Two primaries on Tuesday illustrate why the 'Blue Wave' is far from certain
By Rick Moran
What a difference a few months can make in politics.
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At the beginning of the year, the GOP's House and Senate majorities looked shaky. Democrats were surging across the board. They had recruited many top-notch candidates. They had money to burn. And Donald Trump and the GOP were in free fall in the polls.


But to the amazement of some Democratic partisans, all of that has changed for the better. Trump's approval numbers are better than Obama's at this point of his presidency. The gap between Democrats and Republicans in the generic polls has narrowed considerably. GOP fundraising has taken off, and the party has recruited several strong candidates to run in open races.

Indeed, the primaries in North Dakota and Nevada on Tuesday illustrate just how far the GOP has come in just a few months.

CNN:
For months, Nevada and North Dakota were among the biggest headaches facing President Donald Trump and Senate Republicans headed into November's midterm elections.

In Nevada, until March, the GOP had two well-known candidates. In North Dakota, until February, it had none.

But after aggressive intervention from the White House, Trump's political team and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, the GOP now has one candidate in each of those races – giving the party nothing to worry about in Tuesday's primaries in two of the most important Senate battlegrounds on the 2018 midterm map.

"This is an example of what it looks like when things work well," said Josh Holmes, a top political adviser to McConnell. "Both of them had opportunity to be big trouble."
Few would have given Nevada's incumbent, GOP senator Dean Heller, much of a chance to survive a primary challenge in January. Heller angered many Nevada Republicans by voting against Obamacare repeal and saying some unkind words about the president. But Heller managed to mend fences a bit with Trump, and the White House, along with majority leader McConnell, induced Heller's main GOP primary challenger, Danny Tarkanian, to drop out of the race and run for a House seat. Tarkanian is a perennial candidate who has never won anything and would have had great difficulty in the general election. But Heller's standing with Nevada voters has improved, and Trump has agreed to campaign for him. He appears to have a good chance of holding on to his seat.

In North Dakota, the problem was finding a suitable candidate to run against incumbent Senator Heidi Heitkamp.
In North Dakota, despite a lobbying effort that included a visit with Trump at the White House, Rep. Kevin Cramer decided in January against a Senate run.

Rather than looking elsewhere for another candidate, though, Trump, McConnell, National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman Cory Gardner and other top Republicans continued courting Cramer, pressuring him to reconsider his decision.

"Everybody saw him as by far and away the best candidate we could field. So, that was an all-in proposition to try to get him to reconsider," Holmes said.

Oil tycoon and GOP mega-donor Harold Hamm also pressed Cramer to run – and Hamm's nudging, Cramer told WDAY in North Dakota, was a major factor.

"When Harold talked to my wife Chris, he said, 'If Kevin does this, if you guys get into this, I will be his national finance chairman.' That was pretty compelling," Cramer said in the May interview.
Heller back from the dead and Cramer poised to flip a seat in a state Trump won by 36 points. If both Heller and Cramer are successful, Democratic hopes of taking over the Senate are all but gone.

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Re: Two primaries on Tuesday illustrate why the 'Blue Wave' is far from certain

Post by jeanV » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:03 pm

Slappy wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:13 pm
Two primaries on Tuesday illustrate why the 'Blue Wave' is far from certain
There won't be a Blue Wave as long as Trump rides on the coattails of Obama's recovery.

But the buck will stop when Trump's protectionism derails the economy.

And from that point on, people will realize Trump also got fucked by Kim.

When that inflexion point happens is anybody's guess.

:P
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Re: Two primaries on Tuesday illustrate why the 'Blue Wave' is far from certain

Post by Mikgof » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:47 am

jeanV wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:03 pm
Slappy wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:13 pm
Two primaries on Tuesday illustrate why the 'Blue Wave' is far from certain
There won't be a Blue Wave as long as Trump rides on the coattails of Obama's recovery.

But the buck will stop when Trump's protectionism derails the economy.

And from that point on, people will realize Trump also got fucked by Kim.

When that inflexion point happens is anybody's guess.

:P
I think that it is fair to say that Trump can take credit or blame for what happens to the economy since, say, last October or so. If annual GDP growth speeds up or slows it is now firmly at Trump's door. The same with jobs growth, wages and investment. I wonder how things are going!
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Re: Two primaries on Tuesday illustrate why the 'Blue Wave' is far from certain

Post by LeJizzOfMatoub » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:12 am

jeanV wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:03 pm


There won't be a Blue Wave as long as Trump rides on the coattails of Obama's recovery.

The Bizarre World of Barack Obama Fan Fiction
A variety of online authors have imagined Obama meeting Hellboy, Buzz Lightyear, "Gilmore Girls" protagonist Rory Gilmore, and, of course, Harry Potter.

The blessed are those who go their whole lives without ever hearing the phrase "fan fiction." Not to disparage its practitioners, of course, but for those of us uninitiated in the world of Ron Weasley erotica, it's an odd concept: A writer chooses already-established "characters," either from real life or someone else's fictional work, and creates their own stories around them.

In some cases— Twilight, Star Trek , One Direction—it makes a strange kind of sense: Fanfic is a way of expanding an otherwise limited universe, imbuing it with your own imagination and (usually sexual) fantasy. In other cases, the motives are a little less obvious.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mv5z ... iction-210
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Re: Two primaries on Tuesday illustrate why the 'Blue Wave' is far from certain

Post by jeanV » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:30 am

jeanV wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:03 pm
There won't be a Blue Wave as long as Trump rides on the coattails of Obama's recovery.
LeJizzOfMatoub wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:12 am
The Bizarre World of Barack Obama Fan Fiction
    Your stupidity bores me.

    Please come back to me only if you have some facts to provide.

    Sorry, mere opinion pieces do not count.

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    Post by LeJizzOfMatoub » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:26 am

    We already had this discussion, Obama jobs were a fucking joke and you're as much delusional as a democrat voter can be :lol:
    Nearly 95% of all new jobs during Obama era were part-time, or contract

    A new study by economists from Harvard and Princeton indicates that 94% of the 10 million new jobs created during the Obama era were temporary positions.

    The study shows that the jobs were temporary, contract positions, or part-time "gig" jobs in a variety of fields.

    Female workers suffered most heavily in this economy, as work in traditionally feminine fields, like education and medicine, declined during the era.

    The research by economists Lawrence Katz of Harvard University and Alan Krueger at Princeton University shows that the proportion of workers throughout the U.S., during the Obama era, who were working in these kinds of temporary jobs, increased from 10.7% of the population to 15.8%.

    Krueger, a former chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, was surprised by the finding.

    The disappearance of conventional full-time work, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. work, has hit every demographic. “Workers seeking full-time, steady work have lost,” said Krueger.

    Under Obama, 1 million fewer workers, overall, are working than before the beginning of the Great Recession.

    The outgoing president believes his administration was a net positive for workers, however.
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    Post by Frank Weiner » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:12 am

    There won't be a Blue Wave as long as Trump rides on the coattails of Obama's recovery.
    Oh, my. Nobody knows that.

    resist!

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    Post by jeanV » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:57 pm

    Frank Weiner wrote:
    Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:12 am
    Oh, my. Nobody knows that. resist!
    GHWB called Trump a blowhard, Romney called Trump unfit:

    Trump trumpeting his failed Korean deal proves both of them correct.

    Reagan was one of the first to despise Trump. Good old Reagan. Sound judgment.
    as much as Trump might like to suggest that his presidency will carry on the Gipper's legacy, the Reagans...actually kind of hated him! The Washington Post tracked down some delightful anecdotes about how the Reagan White House delicately, eye-rollingly managed its occasional obligatory interactions with our Tweeter-in-Chief.

    In 1984, Trump requested that Reagan attend a gala to honor Vietnam veterans in New York City and said he would schedule it for any day that worked on the president’s calendar. The White House said no.

    In 1988, the New York Board of Trade gave Trump an “outstanding executive” award. The head of the group sent the White House a letter asking if [Reagan] could come. “Advanced word is that Mr. Trump will have some stimulatingly interesting comments to make during his talk at the dinner,” he wrote. The scheduling office never seriously entertained the idea.

    The saddest detail, though, is that when the president signed that photo of himself shaking Trump's hand, he goofed up his own dang signature.
    The president, not paying close attention, signed it “Reagan Reagan.” Five years later, Trump included the image in his book “The Art of the Deal.” An aide in the social secretary’s office noticed the mistake. She sent an apologetic note and a corrected picture — signed with an autopen.

    It's true! Look at that picture again—the same one that Trump touted today as evidence that they were best buds.

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    It's perfectly understandable that President Reagan didn't much care about a thirsty, middling real estate developer who wouldn't stop calling his office and asking if they could hang out. But to think so little of someone that you don't even bother writing your own name correctly?

    That's brutal.

    :lol:
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    Post by John Frum » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:04 pm

    I didnt vote for that rino cocksucker Heller.


    I dont care if he is republican, he has stabbed YT repeatly in the back


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    Post by Slappy » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:06 pm

    jeanV wrote:
    Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:03 pm
    Slappy wrote:
    Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:13 pm
    Two primaries on Tuesday illustrate why the 'Blue Wave' is far from certain
    There won't be a Blue Wave as long as Trump rides on the coattails of Obama's recovery.

    But the buck will stop when Trump's protectionism derails the economy.

    And from that point on, people will realize Trump also got fucked by Kim.

    When that inflexion point happens is anybody's guess.

    :P
    obamas recovery

    who
    the guy with the bigger ego tan trump

    the guy who put more americans on food stamps and fat people on disability ?
    the guy who told americans get used to low 1 to 2 % western european like yearly growth ?
    the guy who just threw people off their property to make room for his joke of a presidential library

    who that nigger

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    Post by jeanV » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:01 pm

    Slappy wrote:
    Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:06 pm
    obamas recovery

    the guy with the bigger ego tan trump
    the guy who put more americans on food stamps and fat people on disability ?
    the guy who told americans get used to low 1 to 2 % western european like yearly growth ?
    the guy who just threw people off their property to make room for his joke of a presidential library

    None of your points addresses the issue.


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    Post by Mikgof » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:37 pm

    Good. A Blue Wave would mean the end of Trump. I want him to do at least the full 8 years. My regular intake of lulz is far more important than good governance in America.

    JeanV being the "Mr Nice" of TTH wants to save America from the idiocy of Trump. Spoilsport!
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    Post by WilyB » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:02 am

    So let the TTH grandees sneer. They have no way of understanding Trump. :roll:

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    Post by jeanV » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:12 am

    WilyB wrote:
    Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:02 am
    So let the TTH grandees sneer. They have no way of understanding Trump.
    OK, your Lordship.

    I'm sure you get things better than I do.

    You being Auteuil blue blood and all that.

    ;)

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    Re: Two primaries on Tuesday illustrate why the 'Blue Wave' is far from certain

    Post by Slappy » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:38 pm

    With the same old identity politics , the promise of higher taxes , more regulations , and free shit blah blah blah

    im sure they'll be sweeping red states left n right in NOV zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    how about obama care 2
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    cause the first one only hurt poor people on medicade when they could no longer get a doctor cause doctors would or couldnt take it anymore
    millions of middle class couldnt keep thier doctors and all of a sudden couldnt afford thier health plans any longer

    obama care
    affordable care act
    written by the largest insurance companies in the USA
    small Texas insurance companies who were about to be crushed by it warned each and every one of us

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    Post by jeanV » Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:47 pm

    Slappy wrote:
    Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:38 pm
    With the same old identity politics , the promise of higher taxes , more regulations , and free shit
    Again, false dichotomy: the choice isn't between Trump protectionism and SJW madness.

    • identity politics and free shit: Bad. Fuck moochers and SJWs.

    • taxes: Trump fucked up by financing tax breaks with a deficit in good years. ST vote buying.

    • more regulations: Those Trump cut were good regulations: EPA and Dodd Frank.

    According to Federal Reserve Chairwoman Janet Yellen in August 2017, "The balance of research suggests that the core reforms we have put in place have substantially boosted resilience without unduly limiting credit availability or economic growth."

    And Pruitt is Trump redux: a narrow-minded, unethical short term grabber.

    :roll:
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