What is this for K!

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Princess Lea minus honey buns

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OK. Time for another HINT:

The firearm is AMERICAN.

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Is it a Browning product?

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Is it a Browning product?

Nope.

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Another photo...in context, within the display at a museum.

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Well, that Springfield with a Pedersen device also have this weird magazine on top...

Was officially called a pistol...It say the BAR killed it...

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Well, that Springfield with a Pedersen device also have this weird magazine on top...

Was officially called a pistol...It say the BAR killed it...

Good observation and the closest, thus far.  However the Pedersen device came out of Remington.  The mystery firearm was from another American gun maker.

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That's a pretty horrible piece of shit we are looking for...

But the worse of all time has to be the Lee Enfield conversion, from the best to the ultimate worst.
Look at the piping of gasses to cock back...very diesel steampunk, innit:



Well, this just shot the bolt through the shooter's head,
soooo...they made a new cam, shield and shit:

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That's a pretty horrible piece of shit we are looking for...

But the worse of all time has to be the Lee Enfield conversion, from the best to the ultimate worst.
Look at the piping of gasses to cock back...very diesel steampunk, innit:

That does look like a mutant abortion, but interesting.

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Is the manufacturer of the firearm still making firearms?

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Is the manufacturer of the firearm still making firearms?

Yes, but not at the original site which produced arms for 140 years, and not the original owners.

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the info on this rifle is pretty sketch on the net

but..

Was the first assault rifle built by the Walther company in Germany in 1942? NO! Beleive it or not the fist assault rifle was built in America by Frank B. Burton working at Winchester in 1916 as a assistant to John M Browning! Its know as the Winchester Machine Rifle or WMR designed to bust German observation balloons in WWI and had a spare barrel for ground assault work. Its chambered for the .345 SLR (self loading rifle) cartridge using a 173 grain bullet with a incendiary charge

http://www.familyfriendsfirearms.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-98027.html
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1190576_John_Moses_Browning_invented_the_assault_rifle_in_1906.html

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the info on this rifle is pretty sketch on the net

but..

Was the first assault rifle built by the Walther company in Germany in 1942? NO! Beleive it or not the fist assault rifle was built in America by Frank B. Burton working at Winchester in 1916 as a assistant to John M Browning! Its know as the Winchester Machine Rifle or WMR designed to bust German observation balloons in WWI and had a spare barrel for ground assault work. Its chambered for the .345 SLR (self loading rifle) cartridge using a 173 grain bullet with a incendiary charge

http://www.familyfriendsfirearms.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-98027.html
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1190576_John_Moses_Browning_invented_the_assault_rifle_in_1906.html

You are absolutely correct! Well done!

Yes, there is very little on the web about this rifle.
Above photo is the museum exhibit card. The WMR is at the Buffalo Bill Center, Firearms Museum in Cody, Wyoming.

Winchester Machine Rifle
 
     Country of Origin: US
 
     Appears in: An experimental World War 1-era weapon.
 
     Notes: This weapon, at first designed for use by aircraft crews to destroy the hydrogen-filled balloons of the First World War, has been described by some as the “first true assault rifle” and the “BAR before the BAR.”  It was developed in 1917 by Frank Burton, who went on to develop the BAR automatic rifle with John Browning.  A ground version was quickly designed to accompany the aircraft version.
 
     The aircraft and ground versions differed little from each other, with the primary difference being that the aircraft version fired and was optimized for incendiary ammunition.  The design was innovative, with a wooden stock virtually in a straight line from the shoulder, a pistol grip trigger group with an enlarged trigger guard for use with a gloved hand.  The magazine is above the receiver and angled off from the receiver at 60 degrees; the magazine well actually allowed for two magazines, with one feeding at a time – after the first is empty, it slides out of place and the second one feeds the weapon.  The safety switch is a simple “second trigger” below the trigger guard.  This second trigger must be pulled at the same time as the trigger within the trigger guard.  Operation was also novel for the time, being by straight blowback and from an open bolt.  The charging handle is below the receiver.  The recoil spring is long and extends all the way into the stock.  The fore-end has finger grooves and a ring to mount on an airplane; the 25-inch barrel is finned for half its length for cooling.  Ejection is downwards.  To top off the innovative features of the Winchester Machine Rifle, the weapon fires the .345 Winchester Self-Loading Rifle cartridge – a true intermediate cartridge made by necking down and shortening the .351 Winchester Self-Loading Rifle cartridge.  The Winchester Machine Rifle was apparently extensively tested as the Springfield Armory but records of the testing have been lost and the reasons for its not being adopted are not known.
http://www.pmulcahy.com/best_stuff_that_never_was/best_br_that_never_were.htm

http://raigap.livejournal.com/58114.html





http://operatorchan.org/k/arch/res/273584+50.html

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Nope, dont want to burst your bubble, but the Mondragon,
a Mexican design, of all people, beat it by thirty years:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Mondragón was the world's first semi-automatic rifle and automatic rifle, and was designed by Mexican general Manuel Mondragón.

Mondragón began his work in 1882 and patented the weapon in 1887. It was gas-operated with a cylinder and piston arrangement, now very familiar but unusual at the time, and rotating bolt, locked by lugs in helical grooves in the receiver; it was also possible to operate it as a simple straight-pull bolt action. The caliber was 7 mm (.284 in) Mauser with an 8-round box magazine; a trial LMG version had a 20-round box and provision for a bipod, like the Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR); the Mexican Army also used a 100-round drum magazine for a light machine gun variant produced in 1910.
Features and uses

The Mondragón was known for its stopping power but suffered from high recoil and poor accuracy when fired on fully automatic setting. The Mondragón also had a light machine gun variant that could be used with a 100-round magazine. For this reason, the Mexican army used an improved light machine gun variant of the Mondragón up until 1943, when it was replaced with the Mendoza M-1943 general purpose infantry machine gun. The first versions of the rifle had trouble working in muddy and moist environments, German troops using the Mondragón rifle in Western Europe had difficulties with the rifle jamming while used in trench warfare. Although they did not function well in the thick moist mud and dirt of central Europe, they proved to work well in hot and arid climates such as the north of Mexico. This meant the Mondragón did not have a problem with dirt trapped inside, instead having more of a problem with moisture, but would still work well with dry sand and dust in its mechanism, although the Mexican manufactured 1908 model fixed his problem with slight improvements to the firing mechanism and the barrel.

Manuel Mondragon:

If he had put this originally on a large scale production during the revolution, my God,
There would have been no Mexican left...they killed half
their population already with single shooters!

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Nope, dont want to burst your bubble, but the Mondragon,
a Mexican design, of all people, beat it by thirty years:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Mondragón was the world's first semi-automatic rifle and automatic rifle, and was designed by Mexican general Manuel Mondragón.

The Mondragón was indeed a select-fire battle rifle, but not an assault rifle.

By definition, an "assault rifle" does not use a full charged rifle cartridge, nor a pistol round.  It uses an intermediate cartridge.